About the show

The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.

Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.

In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.

Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.

PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).


  • Welcome to Asbestosville! Season 4 Premiere with Michael Bayliss and Mark Allen

    November 7th, 2022  |  Season 4  |  1 hr 12 mins
    8 billion, asbestos, degrowth, holistic activism, post-growth, sustainable population australia, town planning rebellion, urban planning

    We can’t believe that PGAP is into its fourth season already! So, to shake things up, Michael is being joined by Mark Allen from Town Planning Rebellion and Holistic Activism as the co-host for this season. This first episode of the season is the culmination of a personal journey for them both. These experiences have also been written down in the form of a blog: “A Year in Asbestosville: A Farcical Tale of Systemic Failure.” In addition to our personal journeys, we also discuss some Degrowth related current affairs. These include 8 billion day on November 15 and Liz Truss and her unintentional launching of the Anti-Growth Coalition.