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    <title>Post-Growth Australia Podcast - Episodes Tagged with “Collapse”</title>
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    <description>The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.
Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.
In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.
Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.
PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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    <itunes:summary>The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.
Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.
In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.
Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.
PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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  <title>Beyond the Petri Dish with George Tsakraklides</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this latest episode we speak with scientist, researcher, and author George Tsakraklides about the deeper roots of humanity’s many crises. Drawing on his rich scientific background and corporate insight, George explores how our evolutionary wiring, societal structures and cultural narratives hinder meaningful change. We unpack the psychological forces driving self-destruction, the limitations of rational thought and the need to reconnect with a deeper sense of being. From the inherited challenges of activism in a world of algorithms to the quiet strength of grounded action and grief, this conversation offers a powerful lens on navigating despair and cultivating meaning in a collapsing world.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this latest episode we speak with scientist, researcher and author George Tsakraklides about the deeper roots of humanity’s many crises. Drawing on his rich scientific background and corporate insight, George explores how our evolutionary wiring, societal structures and cultural narratives hinder meaningful change. We unpack the psychological forces driving self-destruction, the limitations of rational thought and the need to reconnect with a deeper sense of being. From the inherited challenges of activism in a world of algorithms to the quiet strength of grounded action and grief, this conversation offers a powerful lens on navigating despair and cultivating meaning in a collapsing world.
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George Tsakraklides is author of The Unhappiness Machine, In The Grip of Necrocapitalism, Beyond the Petri Dish, Frankenpolitics and other works exploring the deeper drivers of civilisational collapse and humanity’s self-destructive trajectory. 
With degrees in molecular biology, chemistry, food science, and Earth sciences, George spent two decades in social research, data analytics, and global brand strategy, working with major multinationals, gaining insight into the inner workings of profit-driven systems.
After leaving the corporate world, George turned his focus to humanity’s broken relationship with nature and the repeating patterns of societal failure. This work has featured on Radio Ecoshock, Collapse Chronicles, Post-Doom Conversations and other platforms addressing environmental and civilisational crises.
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In this episode, we dive into the intersection of science, philosophy and ecological activism, as explored in George’s latest book, Beyond the Petri Dish. We examine why rational thinking alone falls short and the importance of reconnecting with the expansive Infinity State, a realm beyond reason, to achieve full embodiment.
&lt;img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/fS9Vjz3P.jpg" alt="book cover"&gt;
The conversation also delves into the psychological and societal forces steering humanity away from ecological wisdom, including the role of social media in fuelling addictive, reactionary behaviours. We critique the environmental movement’s entanglement with growth-based paradigms and explore the need for a more honest, existential reckoning with what it means to be human in an age of collapse.
From the pitfalls of call-out culture in activism to the quiet power of tending a conservation garden, we reflect on the value of small, grounded acts in a world that often feels overwhelming. Finally, we explore the role of grief, acceptance and grounded hope in moving beyond paralysis, offering insight for those struggling with eco-anxiety and despair.
For those who want to explore George’s work further, you can check out his website HERE (https://tsakraklides.com/).
You can also find George on Substack here: (1) The George Tsakraklides View | Substack (https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/)
George’s latest articles on Substack are all recommended and highly pertinent to this episode. Some examples include:
 A Brief History of the Dopamine Dystopia (https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/a-brief-history-of-the-dopamine-dystopia)
 Finding Meaning in An Increasingly Absurd World (https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/finding-meaning-in-an-increasingly)
 The Meta Terror State: A Do-It-Yourself Guide for Aspiring Dictators (https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/the-meta-terror-state-a-do-it-yourself)
George also has an Instagram page (https://www.instagram.com/george_tsakraklides/?hl=en) where you can view his garden restoration among other things.
In this episode we also discuss how George’s work connects with Holistic Activism. You can read/download the 2025 edition of the Holistic Activism Booklet HERE (https://holisticactivism.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/holistic-activism-booklet-may-2025.pdf).
Please feel welcome to support the work of PGAP through subscribing (https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe), through sharing this and other episodes with your networks, or by rating and leaving a review on Apple podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099) or your favourite platform.   We also welcome your feedback and ideas.  Please contact us anytime on our contact form here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact).
Post Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP) is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA (https://population.org.au/)).  All opinions, past work and legacies of our guests so not necessarily reflect those of PGAP or SPA.
 Special Guest: George Tsakraklides.
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this latest episode we speak with scientist, researcher and author George Tsakraklides about the deeper roots of humanity’s many crises. Drawing on his rich scientific background and corporate insight, George explores how our evolutionary wiring, societal structures and cultural narratives hinder meaningful change. We unpack the psychological forces driving self-destruction, the limitations of rational thought and the need to reconnect with a deeper sense of being. From the inherited challenges of activism in a world of algorithms to the quiet strength of grounded action and grief, this conversation offers a powerful lens on navigating despair and cultivating meaning in a collapsing world.</p>

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<p>George Tsakraklides is author of The Unhappiness Machine, In The Grip of Necrocapitalism, Beyond the Petri Dish, Frankenpolitics and other works exploring the deeper drivers of civilisational collapse and humanity’s self-destructive trajectory. </p>

<p>With degrees in molecular biology, chemistry, food science, and Earth sciences, George spent two decades in social research, data analytics, and global brand strategy, working with major multinationals, gaining insight into the inner workings of profit-driven systems.</p>

<p>After leaving the corporate world, George turned his focus to humanity’s broken relationship with nature and the repeating patterns of societal failure. This work has featured on Radio Ecoshock, Collapse Chronicles, Post-Doom Conversations and other platforms addressing environmental and civilisational crises.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/NFfazAtS.jpg" alt="GeorgeProfile"></p>

<p>In this episode, we dive into the intersection of science, philosophy and ecological activism, as explored in George’s latest book, Beyond the Petri Dish. We examine why rational thinking alone falls short and the importance of reconnecting with the expansive Infinity State, a realm beyond reason, to achieve full embodiment.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/fS9Vjz3P.jpg" alt="book cover"></p>

<p>The conversation also delves into the psychological and societal forces steering humanity away from ecological wisdom, including the role of social media in fuelling addictive, reactionary behaviours. We critique the environmental movement’s entanglement with growth-based paradigms and explore the need for a more honest, existential reckoning with what it means to be human in an age of collapse.</p>

<p>From the pitfalls of call-out culture in activism to the quiet power of tending a conservation garden, we reflect on the value of small, grounded acts in a world that often feels overwhelming. Finally, we explore the role of grief, acceptance and grounded hope in moving beyond paralysis, offering insight for those struggling with eco-anxiety and despair.</p>

<p>For those who want to explore George’s work further, you can check out his website <a href="https://tsakraklides.com/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>You can also find George on Substack here:<a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/" rel="nofollow"> (1) The George Tsakraklides View | Substack</a></p>

<p>George’s latest articles on Substack are all recommended and highly pertinent to this episode. Some examples include:</p>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/a-brief-history-of-the-dopamine-dystopia" rel="nofollow">A Brief History of the Dopamine Dystopia</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/finding-meaning-in-an-increasingly" rel="nofollow">Finding Meaning in An Increasingly Absurd World</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/the-meta-terror-state-a-do-it-yourself" rel="nofollow">The Meta Terror State: A Do-It-Yourself Guide for Aspiring Dictators</a></li>
</ul>

<p>George also has an <a href="https://www.instagram.com/george_tsakraklides/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">Instagram page</a> where you can view his garden restoration among other things.</p>

<p>In this episode we also discuss how George’s work connects with Holistic Activism. You can read/download the 2025 edition of the Holistic <a href="https://holisticactivism.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/holistic-activism-booklet-may-2025.pdf" rel="nofollow">Activism Booklet HERE</a>.</p>

<p>Please feel welcome to support the work of PGAP through <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe" rel="nofollow">subscribing</a>, through sharing this and other episodes with your networks, or by rating and leaving a review on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple podcast</a> or your favourite platform.   We also welcome your feedback and ideas.  Please contact us anytime on our contact form <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Post Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP) is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (<a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">SPA</a>).  All opinions, past work and legacies of our guests so not necessarily reflect those of PGAP or SPA.</p><p>Special Guest: George Tsakraklides.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this latest episode we speak with scientist, researcher and author George Tsakraklides about the deeper roots of humanity’s many crises. Drawing on his rich scientific background and corporate insight, George explores how our evolutionary wiring, societal structures and cultural narratives hinder meaningful change. We unpack the psychological forces driving self-destruction, the limitations of rational thought and the need to reconnect with a deeper sense of being. From the inherited challenges of activism in a world of algorithms to the quiet strength of grounded action and grief, this conversation offers a powerful lens on navigating despair and cultivating meaning in a collapsing world.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/t05n54lK.jpg" alt="george t cover art"></p>

<p>George Tsakraklides is author of The Unhappiness Machine, In The Grip of Necrocapitalism, Beyond the Petri Dish, Frankenpolitics and other works exploring the deeper drivers of civilisational collapse and humanity’s self-destructive trajectory. </p>

<p>With degrees in molecular biology, chemistry, food science, and Earth sciences, George spent two decades in social research, data analytics, and global brand strategy, working with major multinationals, gaining insight into the inner workings of profit-driven systems.</p>

<p>After leaving the corporate world, George turned his focus to humanity’s broken relationship with nature and the repeating patterns of societal failure. This work has featured on Radio Ecoshock, Collapse Chronicles, Post-Doom Conversations and other platforms addressing environmental and civilisational crises.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/NFfazAtS.jpg" alt="GeorgeProfile"></p>

<p>In this episode, we dive into the intersection of science, philosophy and ecological activism, as explored in George’s latest book, Beyond the Petri Dish. We examine why rational thinking alone falls short and the importance of reconnecting with the expansive Infinity State, a realm beyond reason, to achieve full embodiment.</p>

<p><img src="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads-2024/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/fS9Vjz3P.jpg" alt="book cover"></p>

<p>The conversation also delves into the psychological and societal forces steering humanity away from ecological wisdom, including the role of social media in fuelling addictive, reactionary behaviours. We critique the environmental movement’s entanglement with growth-based paradigms and explore the need for a more honest, existential reckoning with what it means to be human in an age of collapse.</p>

<p>From the pitfalls of call-out culture in activism to the quiet power of tending a conservation garden, we reflect on the value of small, grounded acts in a world that often feels overwhelming. Finally, we explore the role of grief, acceptance and grounded hope in moving beyond paralysis, offering insight for those struggling with eco-anxiety and despair.</p>

<p>For those who want to explore George’s work further, you can check out his website <a href="https://tsakraklides.com/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>You can also find George on Substack here:<a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/" rel="nofollow"> (1) The George Tsakraklides View | Substack</a></p>

<p>George’s latest articles on Substack are all recommended and highly pertinent to this episode. Some examples include:</p>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/a-brief-history-of-the-dopamine-dystopia" rel="nofollow">A Brief History of the Dopamine Dystopia</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/finding-meaning-in-an-increasingly" rel="nofollow">Finding Meaning in An Increasingly Absurd World</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://georgetsakraklides.substack.com/p/the-meta-terror-state-a-do-it-yourself" rel="nofollow">The Meta Terror State: A Do-It-Yourself Guide for Aspiring Dictators</a></li>
</ul>

<p>George also has an <a href="https://www.instagram.com/george_tsakraklides/?hl=en" rel="nofollow">Instagram page</a> where you can view his garden restoration among other things.</p>

<p>In this episode we also discuss how George’s work connects with Holistic Activism. You can read/download the 2025 edition of the Holistic <a href="https://holisticactivism.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/holistic-activism-booklet-may-2025.pdf" rel="nofollow">Activism Booklet HERE</a>.</p>

<p>Please feel welcome to support the work of PGAP through <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe" rel="nofollow">subscribing</a>, through sharing this and other episodes with your networks, or by rating and leaving a review on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple podcast</a> or your favourite platform.   We also welcome your feedback and ideas.  Please contact us anytime on our contact form <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Post Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP) is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (<a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">SPA</a>).  All opinions, past work and legacies of our guests so not necessarily reflect those of PGAP or SPA.</p><p>Special Guest: George Tsakraklides.</p>]]>
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  <title>Zero Input Agriculture with Shane Simonsen</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2022 07:00:00 +1100</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Bayliss</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>With the twin horsemen of climate change and diminishing fossil fuels impacting food security (did you know that 10 calories of fossil fuel are required per calorie of food?) it is evident that the future of industrial agriculture looks more than a little grim.  Given that food is critical for survival, PGAP continues to explore the essential answers to the question:  how do we radically change our approach to growing food in the years to come?

Dr. Shane Simonsen operates a ‘Zero Input Agriculture’ farm in the highlands of South-East Queensland.  What does zero input mean and does it work?  Shane shares with PGAP how a zero input system works, in addition to weaving his vast knowledge and unique insights into a very pithy conversation with PGAP host Michael Bayliss.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>With the twin horsemen of climate change and diminishing fossil fuels impacting food security (did you know that 10 calories of fossil fuel are required per calorie of food?) it is evident that the future of industrial agriculture looks more than a little grim.  Given that food is critical for survival, PGAP continues to explore the essential answers to the question:  how do we radically change our approach to growing food in the years to come?
Dr. Shane Simonsen operates a ‘Zero Input Agriculture’ farm in the highlands of South-East Queensland.  What does zero input mean and does it work?  Shane shares with PGAP how a zero input system works, in addition to weaving his vast knowledge and unique insights into a very pithy conversation with PGAP host Michael Bayliss.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/G11CeCJS.jpg" alt="Shane Simonsen"&gt;
Shane regularly posts on his farm and his worldly observation on his website, Zero Input Agriculture (https://zeroinputagriculture.wordpress.com/), which we encourage you to explore.  Shane has also been a guest on podcasts such as Abundant Edge (https://abundantedge.com/what-would-agriculture-look-like-with-zero-inputs-with-shane-simonsen-author-of-zero-input-agriculture/).
Shane and I are mutual contacts of Michel Stasse and Doon Wyborn, both doing great things in permaculture and collapse awareness. Both have also been previous guests on PGAP.  You can listen to Doon’s interview here  (https://pgap.fireside.fm/bindarrabi)and Michel here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/mikestasse).
Do you enjoy this episode? Then please Support PGAP.  Subscribe here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe).  Contact us here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact).  Rate and review us on Apple Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099).  
Last episode I interviewed regenerative farming icon Charles Massy (https://pgap.fireside.fm/fenner) to promote the Fenner conference ‘Making Australian Agriculture Sustainable.’  The Fenner conference proved to be fantastic with its array of fantastic speakers and its juggling of the precariousness of Australia’s agricultural predicaments while also offering many hopeful solutions.  I certainly learnt a lot more about dung beetles!  The conference was supported and sponsored by Sustainable Population Australi (https://population.org.au/)a, who also support this podcast.  Good on them!
These are a couple of online screenshots from the first day of the conference.  I am sure higher quality photos,  taken on ground,  will be available soon!
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/ofjH8e7H.png" alt="Fenner 1"&gt;
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/EJfrsFBk.png" alt="fenner 2"&gt;
The song of choice for this episode is ‘Safe Room’, the first recorded single from my band ‘Shock Octopus’ back in 2011.  Back then, songs about collapse were still seen as somewhat niche in the WA music scene (and in mainstream society more broadly).  These days, collapse is so obviously a thing that even the Murdoch Press are talking about it!  What can I say, I was there first.  You can find out more about ‘Safe Room’ at the Shock Octopus Bandcamp page here (https://shockoctopus.bandcamp.com/)  (you can even support the artist and buy a copy – hint).
Would you like to find out more about PGAP’s host, Michael Bayliss? You can find out more at my website here (https://michaelbayliss.org/).
Disclaimer:  All opinions from PGAP’s guests are theirs alone, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions or position held by PGAP, Michael Bayliss, or Sustainable Population Australia.  This includes all current and previous research, work,  advocacy or opinions attributable to our interviewees.
 Special Guest: Dr. Shane Simonsen.
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    <![CDATA[<p>With the twin horsemen of climate change and diminishing fossil fuels impacting food security (did you know that 10 calories of fossil fuel are required per calorie of food?) it is evident that the future of industrial agriculture looks more than a little grim.  Given that food is critical for survival, PGAP continues to explore the essential answers to the question:  how do we radically change our approach to growing food in the years to come?</p>

<p>Dr. Shane Simonsen operates a ‘Zero Input Agriculture’ farm in the highlands of South-East Queensland.  What does zero input mean and does it work?  Shane shares with PGAP how a zero input system works, in addition to weaving his vast knowledge and unique insights into a very pithy conversation with PGAP host Michael Bayliss.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/G11CeCJS.jpg" alt="Shane Simonsen"></p>

<p>Shane regularly posts on his farm and his worldly observation on his website, <a href="https://zeroinputagriculture.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Zero Input Agriculture</a>, which we encourage you to explore.  Shane has also been a guest on podcasts such as <a href="https://abundantedge.com/what-would-agriculture-look-like-with-zero-inputs-with-shane-simonsen-author-of-zero-input-agriculture/" rel="nofollow">Abundant Edge</a>.</p>

<p>Shane and I are mutual contacts of Michel Stasse and Doon Wyborn, both doing great things in permaculture and collapse awareness. Both have also been previous guests on PGAP.  You can listen to Doon’s interview <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/bindarrabi" rel="nofollow">here </a>and Michel <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/mikestasse" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Do you enjoy this episode? Then please Support PGAP.  <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe" rel="nofollow">Subscribe here</a>.  Contact us <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Rate and review us on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.  </p>

<p>Last episode I interviewed regenerative farming icon <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/fenner" rel="nofollow">Charles Massy</a> to promote the Fenner conference ‘Making Australian Agriculture Sustainable.’  The Fenner conference proved to be fantastic with its array of fantastic speakers and its juggling of the precariousness of Australia’s agricultural predicaments while also offering many hopeful solutions.  I certainly learnt a lot more about dung beetles!  The conference was supported and sponsored by<a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow"> Sustainable Population Australi</a>a, who also support this podcast.  Good on them!</p>

<p>These are a couple of online screenshots from the first day of the conference.  I am sure higher quality photos,  taken on ground,  will be available soon!</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/ofjH8e7H.png" alt="Fenner 1"></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/EJfrsFBk.png" alt="fenner 2"></p>

<p>The song of choice for this episode is ‘Safe Room’, the first recorded single from my band ‘Shock Octopus’ back in 2011.  Back then, songs about collapse were still seen as somewhat niche in the WA music scene (and in mainstream society more broadly).  These days, collapse is so obviously a thing that even the Murdoch Press are talking about it!  What can I say, I was there first.  You can find out more about ‘Safe Room’ at the <a href="https://shockoctopus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">Shock Octopus Bandcamp page here</a>  (you can even support the artist and buy a copy – hint).</p>

<p>Would you like to find out more about PGAP’s host, Michael Bayliss? You can find out more at <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">my website here</a>.</p>

<p><em>Disclaimer:  All opinions from PGAP’s guests are theirs alone, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions or position held by PGAP, Michael Bayliss, or Sustainable Population Australia.  This includes all current and previous research, work,  advocacy or opinions attributable to our interviewees.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Dr. Shane Simonsen.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>With the twin horsemen of climate change and diminishing fossil fuels impacting food security (did you know that 10 calories of fossil fuel are required per calorie of food?) it is evident that the future of industrial agriculture looks more than a little grim.  Given that food is critical for survival, PGAP continues to explore the essential answers to the question:  how do we radically change our approach to growing food in the years to come?</p>

<p>Dr. Shane Simonsen operates a ‘Zero Input Agriculture’ farm in the highlands of South-East Queensland.  What does zero input mean and does it work?  Shane shares with PGAP how a zero input system works, in addition to weaving his vast knowledge and unique insights into a very pithy conversation with PGAP host Michael Bayliss.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/G11CeCJS.jpg" alt="Shane Simonsen"></p>

<p>Shane regularly posts on his farm and his worldly observation on his website, <a href="https://zeroinputagriculture.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Zero Input Agriculture</a>, which we encourage you to explore.  Shane has also been a guest on podcasts such as <a href="https://abundantedge.com/what-would-agriculture-look-like-with-zero-inputs-with-shane-simonsen-author-of-zero-input-agriculture/" rel="nofollow">Abundant Edge</a>.</p>

<p>Shane and I are mutual contacts of Michel Stasse and Doon Wyborn, both doing great things in permaculture and collapse awareness. Both have also been previous guests on PGAP.  You can listen to Doon’s interview <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/bindarrabi" rel="nofollow">here </a>and Michel <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/mikestasse" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Do you enjoy this episode? Then please Support PGAP.  <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe" rel="nofollow">Subscribe here</a>.  Contact us <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Rate and review us on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.  </p>

<p>Last episode I interviewed regenerative farming icon <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/fenner" rel="nofollow">Charles Massy</a> to promote the Fenner conference ‘Making Australian Agriculture Sustainable.’  The Fenner conference proved to be fantastic with its array of fantastic speakers and its juggling of the precariousness of Australia’s agricultural predicaments while also offering many hopeful solutions.  I certainly learnt a lot more about dung beetles!  The conference was supported and sponsored by<a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow"> Sustainable Population Australi</a>a, who also support this podcast.  Good on them!</p>

<p>These are a couple of online screenshots from the first day of the conference.  I am sure higher quality photos,  taken on ground,  will be available soon!</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/ofjH8e7H.png" alt="Fenner 1"></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/EJfrsFBk.png" alt="fenner 2"></p>

<p>The song of choice for this episode is ‘Safe Room’, the first recorded single from my band ‘Shock Octopus’ back in 2011.  Back then, songs about collapse were still seen as somewhat niche in the WA music scene (and in mainstream society more broadly).  These days, collapse is so obviously a thing that even the Murdoch Press are talking about it!  What can I say, I was there first.  You can find out more about ‘Safe Room’ at the <a href="https://shockoctopus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">Shock Octopus Bandcamp page here</a>  (you can even support the artist and buy a copy – hint).</p>

<p>Would you like to find out more about PGAP’s host, Michael Bayliss? You can find out more at <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">my website here</a>.</p>

<p><em>Disclaimer:  All opinions from PGAP’s guests are theirs alone, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions or position held by PGAP, Michael Bayliss, or Sustainable Population Australia.  This includes all current and previous research, work,  advocacy or opinions attributable to our interviewees.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Dr. Shane Simonsen.</p>]]>
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  <author>Michael Bayliss</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Doone Wyborn is the founder of the Bindarrabi intentional community, inland and uphill of the northern rivers.  A former geologist, he worked on the potential of Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) geothermal energy from 1992 to retirement in 2013 and is recognised as a leading Australian authority on this subject.  With his finger definitely on the pulse on environmental science and limits to growth, Doone started an intentional community based around community sufficiency, frugal abundance and low carbon living.  On a very rainy summer afternoon, Doone shares with PGAP the ins and outs of Bindarrabi community, why societal collapse is a very real and current threat,  and why intentional living away from the big capital cities is a very legitimate thing to do!</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Doone Wyborn is the founder of the Bindarrabi intentional community, inland and uphill of the northern rivers.  A former geologist, he worked on the potential of Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) geothermal energy from 1992 to retirement in 2013 and is recognised as a leading Australian authority on this subject.  With his finger definitely on the pulse on environmental science and limits to growth, Doone started an intentional community based around community sufficiency, frugal abundance and low carbon living.  On a very rainy summer afternoon, Doone shares with PGAP the ins and outs of Bindarrabi community, why societal collapse is a very real and current threat,  and why intentional living away from the big capital cities is a very legitimate thing to do!
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/rm-2ZgSo.jpeg" alt="Doone"&gt;
This special travelogue episode of PGAP was recorded all the way back in January 2021.  My car and I had left Melbourne after the second lockdown and we were enjoying the coastline of NSW when COVID started creeping into Sydney and Brisbane again.  Originally I intended to only go as far north as Coffs Harbour,  but as I couldn’t get back to Victoria,  I received an invitation to stay for a week or so at in intentional community inland of the Northern Rivers,  right on the border of Queensland and  right near a town called ‘Woodenbong.’  I was intrigued and took up the offer.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/DDhY353g.png" alt="bindarrabi"&gt;
At Bindarrabi, I joined the residents at house meetings, communal dinners, gardening bees, path and wall building, and a lot of swimming during the warm days at the amazing water holes.  Every single one of the amazing residents at Bindarrabi were incredibly gracious and made me feel right at home and part of a buzzing community.  Toward the end of my stay, Doone and I impulsively agreed to record an interview, in a tin caravan come office during a heavy sub-tropical summer rainfall.   I feel that this gives the interview a sense of place an intimacy. 
I’m not sure why I held onto this interview for so long, however the broadcast of this episode falls shortly after the sobering news of the new report by the IPCC.  This is accidentally great timing, as Doone’s interview starts off with a tour of Bindarrabi before going deeper into a reflection of overshoot, collapse and environmental tipping points.  Doon does not shy away from sharing his emotions and concerns as the interview progresses and indeed I feel compelled to give a slight disclaimer to be emotionally prepared before listening to this episode.
The choice of music this episode is ‘No Easy Way Down’ from my own band ‘Shock Octopus.’  .  Given the sobering news of the IPCC report and some of the discussions in this interview, I thought it would be quite thematically consistent to play a song that is about climate change from the perspective of a polar bear.  ‘No Easy Way Down’ was released as a fundraiser single last year to raise funds for Extinction Rebellion.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/tnF5zLZM.jpg" alt="no easy way down"&gt;
Following the episode, want to explore some more?  Let these links be thine guide!
The sixth assessment report of The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) can be read in full here. (https://www.ipcc.ch/)  Given the future of existence depends in part on following these recommendations,  I do agree taking the time to read in full.  Otherwise,  I like the summary from The Guardian here. (https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2021/aug/12/the-ipcc-report-is-a-massive-alert-that-the-time-for-climate-action-is-nearly-gone-but-crucially-not-gone-yet)
The homepage for the Bindarrab (https://www.bindarrabi.com/)i community can be found here.  They are looking for new additions to their community if you’re feeling the call.
Recently I spoke at Adelaide based Economic Reform Australia (https://era.org.au/).  I strongly recommend checking them out,  they have a great newsletter full of economic critique articles.
I was interviewed on Radio Adelaide Songcatcher (https://radioadelaide.org.au/program/songcatcher/2021-08-02/) and Mixtape  (https://radioadelaide.org.au/program/mixtape/2021-08-02/)programs to talks about the stories behind the songs with my decade long band Shock Octopus.   If you’re tired of hearing me ramble about post-growth and would rather I ramble about another topic,  these links are for you.
A huge thanks to Sustainable Population Australia  (https://population.org.au/)for making the podcast possible.
 Special Guest: Doone Wyborn.
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Doone Wyborn is the founder of the Bindarrabi intentional community, inland and uphill of the northern rivers.  A former geologist, he worked on the potential of Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) geothermal energy from 1992 to retirement in 2013 and is recognised as a leading Australian authority on this subject.  With his finger definitely on the pulse on environmental science and limits to growth, Doone started an intentional community based around community sufficiency, frugal abundance and low carbon living.  On a very rainy summer afternoon, Doone shares with PGAP the ins and outs of Bindarrabi community, why societal collapse is a very real and current threat,  and why intentional living away from the big capital cities is a very legitimate thing to do!</strong></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/rm-2ZgSo.jpeg" alt="Doone"></p>

<p>This special travelogue episode of PGAP was recorded all the way back in January 2021.  My car and I had left Melbourne after the second lockdown and we were enjoying the coastline of NSW when COVID started creeping into Sydney and Brisbane again.  Originally I intended to only go as far north as Coffs Harbour,  but as I couldn’t get back to Victoria,  I received an invitation to stay for a week or so at in intentional community inland of the Northern Rivers,  right on the border of Queensland and  right near a town called ‘Woodenbong.’  I was intrigued and took up the offer.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/DDhY353g.png" alt="bindarrabi"></p>

<p>At Bindarrabi, I joined the residents at house meetings, communal dinners, gardening bees, path and wall building, and a lot of swimming during the warm days at the amazing water holes.  Every single one of the amazing residents at Bindarrabi were incredibly gracious and made me feel right at home and part of a buzzing community.  Toward the end of my stay, Doone and I impulsively agreed to record an interview, in a tin caravan come office during a heavy sub-tropical summer rainfall.   I feel that this gives the interview a sense of place an intimacy. </p>

<p>I’m not sure why I held onto this interview for so long, however the broadcast of this episode falls shortly after the sobering news of the new report by the IPCC.  This is accidentally great timing, as Doone’s interview starts off with a tour of Bindarrabi before going deeper into a reflection of overshoot, collapse and environmental tipping points.  Doon does not shy away from sharing his emotions and concerns as the interview progresses and indeed I feel compelled to give a slight disclaimer to be emotionally prepared before listening to this episode.</p>

<p>The choice of music this episode is ‘No Easy Way Down’ from my own band ‘Shock Octopus.’  .  Given the sobering news of the IPCC report and some of the discussions in this interview, I thought it would be quite thematically consistent to play a song that is about climate change from the perspective of a polar bear.  ‘No Easy Way Down’ was released as a fundraiser single last year to raise funds for Extinction Rebellion.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/tnF5zLZM.jpg" alt="no easy way down"></p>

<p><strong>Following the episode, want to explore some more?  Let these links be thine guide!</strong></p>

<p>The sixth assessment report of The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) can be<a href="https://www.ipcc.ch/" rel="nofollow"> read in full here.</a>  Given the future of existence depends in part on following these recommendations,  I do agree taking the time to read in full.  Otherwise,  I like the summary from <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2021/aug/12/the-ipcc-report-is-a-massive-alert-that-the-time-for-climate-action-is-nearly-gone-but-crucially-not-gone-yet" rel="nofollow">The Guardian here.</a></p>

<p>The homepage for the <a href="https://www.bindarrabi.com/" rel="nofollow">Bindarrab</a>i community can be found here.  They are looking for new additions to their community if you’re feeling the call.</p>

<p>Recently I spoke at Adelaide based <a href="https://era.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Economic Reform Australia</a>.  I strongly recommend checking them out,  they have a great newsletter full of economic critique articles.</p>

<p>I was interviewed on Radio Adelaide<a href="https://radioadelaide.org.au/program/songcatcher/2021-08-02/" rel="nofollow"> Songcatcher</a> and <a href="https://radioadelaide.org.au/program/mixtape/2021-08-02/" rel="nofollow">Mixtape </a>programs to talks about the stories behind the songs with my decade long band Shock Octopus.   If you’re tired of hearing me ramble about post-growth and would rather I ramble about another topic,  these links are for you.</p>

<p>A huge thanks to <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia </a>for making the podcast possible.</p><p>Special Guest: Doone Wyborn.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Doone Wyborn is the founder of the Bindarrabi intentional community, inland and uphill of the northern rivers.  A former geologist, he worked on the potential of Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) geothermal energy from 1992 to retirement in 2013 and is recognised as a leading Australian authority on this subject.  With his finger definitely on the pulse on environmental science and limits to growth, Doone started an intentional community based around community sufficiency, frugal abundance and low carbon living.  On a very rainy summer afternoon, Doone shares with PGAP the ins and outs of Bindarrabi community, why societal collapse is a very real and current threat,  and why intentional living away from the big capital cities is a very legitimate thing to do!</strong></p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/rm-2ZgSo.jpeg" alt="Doone"></p>

<p>This special travelogue episode of PGAP was recorded all the way back in January 2021.  My car and I had left Melbourne after the second lockdown and we were enjoying the coastline of NSW when COVID started creeping into Sydney and Brisbane again.  Originally I intended to only go as far north as Coffs Harbour,  but as I couldn’t get back to Victoria,  I received an invitation to stay for a week or so at in intentional community inland of the Northern Rivers,  right on the border of Queensland and  right near a town called ‘Woodenbong.’  I was intrigued and took up the offer.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/DDhY353g.png" alt="bindarrabi"></p>

<p>At Bindarrabi, I joined the residents at house meetings, communal dinners, gardening bees, path and wall building, and a lot of swimming during the warm days at the amazing water holes.  Every single one of the amazing residents at Bindarrabi were incredibly gracious and made me feel right at home and part of a buzzing community.  Toward the end of my stay, Doone and I impulsively agreed to record an interview, in a tin caravan come office during a heavy sub-tropical summer rainfall.   I feel that this gives the interview a sense of place an intimacy. </p>

<p>I’m not sure why I held onto this interview for so long, however the broadcast of this episode falls shortly after the sobering news of the new report by the IPCC.  This is accidentally great timing, as Doone’s interview starts off with a tour of Bindarrabi before going deeper into a reflection of overshoot, collapse and environmental tipping points.  Doon does not shy away from sharing his emotions and concerns as the interview progresses and indeed I feel compelled to give a slight disclaimer to be emotionally prepared before listening to this episode.</p>

<p>The choice of music this episode is ‘No Easy Way Down’ from my own band ‘Shock Octopus.’  .  Given the sobering news of the IPCC report and some of the discussions in this interview, I thought it would be quite thematically consistent to play a song that is about climate change from the perspective of a polar bear.  ‘No Easy Way Down’ was released as a fundraiser single last year to raise funds for Extinction Rebellion.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/tnF5zLZM.jpg" alt="no easy way down"></p>

<p><strong>Following the episode, want to explore some more?  Let these links be thine guide!</strong></p>

<p>The sixth assessment report of The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) can be<a href="https://www.ipcc.ch/" rel="nofollow"> read in full here.</a>  Given the future of existence depends in part on following these recommendations,  I do agree taking the time to read in full.  Otherwise,  I like the summary from <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2021/aug/12/the-ipcc-report-is-a-massive-alert-that-the-time-for-climate-action-is-nearly-gone-but-crucially-not-gone-yet" rel="nofollow">The Guardian here.</a></p>

<p>The homepage for the <a href="https://www.bindarrabi.com/" rel="nofollow">Bindarrab</a>i community can be found here.  They are looking for new additions to their community if you’re feeling the call.</p>

<p>Recently I spoke at Adelaide based <a href="https://era.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Economic Reform Australia</a>.  I strongly recommend checking them out,  they have a great newsletter full of economic critique articles.</p>

<p>I was interviewed on Radio Adelaide<a href="https://radioadelaide.org.au/program/songcatcher/2021-08-02/" rel="nofollow"> Songcatcher</a> and <a href="https://radioadelaide.org.au/program/mixtape/2021-08-02/" rel="nofollow">Mixtape </a>programs to talks about the stories behind the songs with my decade long band Shock Octopus.   If you’re tired of hearing me ramble about post-growth and would rather I ramble about another topic,  these links are for you.</p>

<p>A huge thanks to <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia </a>for making the podcast possible.</p><p>Special Guest: Doone Wyborn.</p>]]>
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