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    <title>Post-Growth Australia Podcast - Episodes Tagged with “Rod Taylor”</title>
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    <description>The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.
Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.
In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.
Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.
PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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    <itunes:summary>The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.
Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.
In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.
Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.
PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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  <itunes:subtitle>Welcome back to a brand-new Season Seven of Post Growth Australia Podcast!

As our world teeters on the edge of an increasingly perilous environmental future—extending beyond climate change—we must ask: what does true sustainability entail? How far are we from it, what are the root causes of our current trajectory, and what paths could lead us there? 

Rod Taylor (author, columnist, radio host) asks these very questions to eleven esteemed Australian scientists and thinkers in a brand-new radio documentary.  PGAP is proud to be the first platform to share this thought-provoking documentary, which explores ecological economics, planned Degrowth and Modern Monetary Theory.
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  <description>Welcome back to a brand-new Season Seven of Post Growth Australia Podcast!
As our world teeters on the edge of an increasingly perilous environmental future—extending beyond climate change—we must ask: what does true sustainability entail? How far are we from it, what are the root causes of our current trajectory, and what paths could lead us there? 
Rod Taylor (author, columnist, radio host) asks these very questions to eleven esteemed Australian scientists and thinkers in a brand-new radio documentary.  PGAP is proud to be the first platform to share this thought-provoking documentary, which explores ecological economics, planned Degrowth and Modern Monetary Theory.
Rod Taylor is author of “Ten Journeys on a Fragile Planet (https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/scienceshow/ten-journeys-on-a-fragile-planet/13173096)”, co-author with Mark Diesendorf of “The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation (https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-99-0663-5)” and co-editor with Stephen Williams, of the groundbreaking book, “Sustainability and the New Economics (https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-78795-0)”.  Rod is also host of the ‘Fuzzy Logic Science Show (https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/).”  Rod was a previous guest on PGAP (Fuzzy Logic on a Fragile Planet with Rod Taylor (https://pgap.fireside.fm/rodtaylor)).  Stephen Williams and Mark Disendorf were also past guests on PGAP.  You can listen to their episodes HERE (https://pgap.fireside.fm/stevewilliams) and HERE (https://pgap.fireside.fm/pathsustainableciv).
The impressive list of guests on the documentary ‘Rethinking Sustainability' include (in order of appearance):
• Prof David Lindenmayer
• Prof Will Steffen
• Prof Clive Hamilton
• Dr Kerryn Higgs
• Prof Philip Lawn
• Dr Mark Diesendorf
• Prof Steve Keen
• Ian Dunlop
• Prof Steven Hail
• High Court Justice Michael Kirby
• Prof Ian Lowe
Last but not least, a shout out to environmental scientist David Tiller, who provided production assistance in the making of this documentary.
This episode of PGAP was produced just before the disastrous election results in the USA. As such your co-hosts Michael Bayliss (https://michaelbayliss.org/) and Mark Allen come across as merely VERY pessimistic at the state of the world, instead of EXTREMELY. Stay tuned for our upcoming episode, where we’ll address these events in more depth and discuss the underlying systemic issues that shape our society. In the meantime, you can explore these ideas further through Mark’s Holistic Activism  (https://holisticactivism.net/)movement.
Now more than ever, it is important that progressive podcasts are supported, as some panacea to the extreme right leaning media that are dominating the airwaves.  Please consider supporting PGAP by sharing this and other episodes with your networks, leaving a review on Apple Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099) and contacting us (https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact) with your thoughts and feedback.
This episode of Post-Growth Australia Podcast was made possible with the kind support of Sustainable Population Australia (https://population.org.au/).  
 Special Guest: Rod Taylor.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to a brand-new Season Seven of Post Growth Australia Podcast!</p>

<p>As our world teeters on the edge of an increasingly perilous environmental future—extending beyond climate change—we must ask: what does true sustainability entail? How far are we from it, what are the root causes of our current trajectory, and what paths could lead us there? </p>

<p>Rod Taylor (author, columnist, radio host) asks these very questions to eleven esteemed Australian scientists and thinkers in a brand-new radio documentary.  PGAP is proud to be the first platform to share this thought-provoking documentary, which explores ecological economics, planned Degrowth and Modern Monetary Theory.</p>

<p>Rod Taylor is author of “<a href="https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/scienceshow/ten-journeys-on-a-fragile-planet/13173096" rel="nofollow">Ten Journeys on a Fragile Planet</a>”, co-author with Mark Diesendorf of “<a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-99-0663-5" rel="nofollow">The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation</a>” and co-editor with Stephen Williams, of the groundbreaking book, “<a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-78795-0" rel="nofollow">Sustainability and the New Economics</a>”.  Rod is also host of the ‘<a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic Science Show</a>.”  Rod was a previous guest on PGAP (<a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/rodtaylor" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic on a Fragile Planet with Rod Taylor</a>).  Stephen Williams and Mark Disendorf were also past guests on PGAP.  You can listen to their episodes <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/stevewilliams" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> and <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/pathsustainableciv" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>The impressive list of guests on the documentary ‘Rethinking Sustainability&#39; include (in order of appearance):</p>

<p>• Prof David Lindenmayer<br>
• Prof Will Steffen<br>
• Prof Clive Hamilton<br>
• Dr Kerryn Higgs<br>
• Prof Philip Lawn<br>
• Dr Mark Diesendorf<br>
• Prof Steve Keen<br>
• Ian Dunlop<br>
• Prof Steven Hail<br>
• High Court Justice Michael Kirby<br>
• Prof Ian Lowe</p>

<p>Last but not least, a shout out to environmental scientist David Tiller, who provided production assistance in the making of this documentary.</p>

<p>This episode of PGAP was produced just before the disastrous election results in the USA. As such your co-hosts <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">Michael Bayliss</a> and Mark Allen come across as merely VERY pessimistic at the state of the world, instead of EXTREMELY. Stay tuned for our upcoming episode, where we’ll address these events in more depth and discuss the underlying systemic issues that shape our society. In the meantime, you can explore these ideas further through Mark’s <a href="https://holisticactivism.net/" rel="nofollow">Holistic Activism </a>movement.</p>

<p>Now more than ever, it is important that progressive podcasts are supported, as some panacea to the extreme right leaning media that are dominating the airwaves.  Please consider supporting PGAP by sharing this and other episodes with your networks, leaving a review on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a> and <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">contacting us</a> with your thoughts and feedback.</p>

<p>This episode of Post-Growth Australia Podcast was made possible with the kind support of <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia</a>.  </p><p>Special Guest: Rod Taylor.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to a brand-new Season Seven of Post Growth Australia Podcast!</p>

<p>As our world teeters on the edge of an increasingly perilous environmental future—extending beyond climate change—we must ask: what does true sustainability entail? How far are we from it, what are the root causes of our current trajectory, and what paths could lead us there? </p>

<p>Rod Taylor (author, columnist, radio host) asks these very questions to eleven esteemed Australian scientists and thinkers in a brand-new radio documentary.  PGAP is proud to be the first platform to share this thought-provoking documentary, which explores ecological economics, planned Degrowth and Modern Monetary Theory.</p>

<p>Rod Taylor is author of “<a href="https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/scienceshow/ten-journeys-on-a-fragile-planet/13173096" rel="nofollow">Ten Journeys on a Fragile Planet</a>”, co-author with Mark Diesendorf of “<a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-99-0663-5" rel="nofollow">The Path to a Sustainable Civilisation</a>” and co-editor with Stephen Williams, of the groundbreaking book, “<a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-78795-0" rel="nofollow">Sustainability and the New Economics</a>”.  Rod is also host of the ‘<a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic Science Show</a>.”  Rod was a previous guest on PGAP (<a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/rodtaylor" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic on a Fragile Planet with Rod Taylor</a>).  Stephen Williams and Mark Disendorf were also past guests on PGAP.  You can listen to their episodes <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/stevewilliams" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> and <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/pathsustainableciv" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>The impressive list of guests on the documentary ‘Rethinking Sustainability&#39; include (in order of appearance):</p>

<p>• Prof David Lindenmayer<br>
• Prof Will Steffen<br>
• Prof Clive Hamilton<br>
• Dr Kerryn Higgs<br>
• Prof Philip Lawn<br>
• Dr Mark Diesendorf<br>
• Prof Steve Keen<br>
• Ian Dunlop<br>
• Prof Steven Hail<br>
• High Court Justice Michael Kirby<br>
• Prof Ian Lowe</p>

<p>Last but not least, a shout out to environmental scientist David Tiller, who provided production assistance in the making of this documentary.</p>

<p>This episode of PGAP was produced just before the disastrous election results in the USA. As such your co-hosts <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">Michael Bayliss</a> and Mark Allen come across as merely VERY pessimistic at the state of the world, instead of EXTREMELY. Stay tuned for our upcoming episode, where we’ll address these events in more depth and discuss the underlying systemic issues that shape our society. In the meantime, you can explore these ideas further through Mark’s <a href="https://holisticactivism.net/" rel="nofollow">Holistic Activism </a>movement.</p>

<p>Now more than ever, it is important that progressive podcasts are supported, as some panacea to the extreme right leaning media that are dominating the airwaves.  Please consider supporting PGAP by sharing this and other episodes with your networks, leaving a review on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a> and <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">contacting us</a> with your thoughts and feedback.</p>

<p>This episode of Post-Growth Australia Podcast was made possible with the kind support of <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia</a>.  </p><p>Special Guest: Rod Taylor.</p>]]>
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  <title>Fuzzy Logic on a Fragile Planet with Rod Taylor</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2022 07:00:00 +1100</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Bayliss</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Rod Taylor is a multi-talented broadcaster, videographer and author based in Canberra.  In addition to hosting the Fuzzy Logic Science show, he is author of the 2020 book “10 Journeys on A Fragile Planet”.  This extraordinary book details the personal journeys of extraordinary environmentalists and game changers.   This episode is dedicated the memory of Haydn Washington.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Rod Taylor is a multi-talented broadcaster, videographer based in Canberra.  In addition to hosting the "Fuzzy Logic Science show (https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/)", he is author of the 2020 book “10 Journeys on A Fragile Planet (https://tenjourneys.blogspot.com/2020/04/ten-journeys-on-fragile-planetcoming.html)”.  This extraordinary book details the personal journeys of extraordinary environmentalists and game changers.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/y0e9_koU.png" alt="Rod Taylor"&gt;
This episode is dedicated to the memory of Dr. Haydn Washington. Haydn was a prolific and passionate writer and speaker on sustainability, degrowth, the need for population stabilisation and denialism against both climate and population realities. He wrote or edited many books. He was active in CASSE and the Ecological Economics community.  The Australian Degrowth movement owes much to Haydn’s work.  A tribute to Haydn can be found on Rod’s ‘Fuzzy Logic’ science show here (https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/e/states-of-denial/).   The link includes an interview that Rod did with Haydn at the 2013 Fenner Conference, organised by Sustainable Population Australia (https://population.org.au/).
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/JJFQghJM.jpg" alt="Hadyn Washington"&gt;
You can find out more about "10 Journeys on a Fragile Planet" here (https://tenjourneys.blogspot.com/2020/04/ten-journeys-on-fragile-planetcoming.html).
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/q5zxAqq8.png" alt="ten journeys cover"&gt;
Want to find out more about the Fuzzy Logic Science show?  You can listen via Canberra’s radio 2XX (https://www.2xxfm.org.au/shows/fuzzy-logic/) or via the Fuzzy Logic Podcast (https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/).
As a prolific and energetic volunteer for Sustainable Population Australia,  Rod worked with PGAP co-host Michael Bayliss with many of SPA’s  video productions,  including:  “Talking Heads: Choosing to have children...or not (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F_9amXCLw&amp;amp;t=562s)”  and an interview with the Ambassador of Costa Rica,  “Pura Vida Costa Rica with Ambassador Armando Vargas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhnN2KSa_Qo)”.  Michael owes much to Rod’s impeccable talent for camera angles and lighting.
Rod was also co-editor of "Sustainability and the New Economics (https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-78795-0)" (Springer, 2022) with Steve Williams.  PGAP interviewed Steve (https://pgap.fireside.fm/stevewilliams) on a season 3 episode of PGAP.  This volume is an invaluable addition to the post-growth economic movement.
"The path to sustainable  civilisation"  co-written by Rod Taylor and Mark Disendorf is set to be published in mid 2023.  With the tag line - 'civilization's broken,  this is how we fix it" - we can't wait for the launch!
Sustainable Population Australia has recently launched a new discussion paper, “How many Australians? The need for Earth-centric ethics (https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/how-many-australians-the-need-for-earth-centric-ethics/)” authored by Patron Dr.  Paul Collins.  Paul was also interviewed for a season 3 edition of PGAP here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/paulcollins).
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/QsNvw2ZD.jpg" alt="discusspaper"&gt;
Find out more about co-host Mark Allen’s Holistic Activism movement here (https://holisticactivism.net/). 
Support PGAP!  Share this episode and others with your friends,  family and networks.  Rate and review us on Apple Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099).  Got any feedback or a suggestion for a future episode?  Contact us here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact).
It has been an epic 2022 for PGAP and the hosts.  Thank you for being with us through this journey and see you again in the new year.
 Special Guest: Rod Taylor.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Rod Taylor is a multi-talented broadcaster, videographer based in Canberra.  In addition to hosting the &quot;<a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic Science show</a>&quot;, he is author of the 2020 book “<a href="https://tenjourneys.blogspot.com/2020/04/ten-journeys-on-fragile-planetcoming.html" rel="nofollow">10 Journeys on A Fragile Planet</a>”.  This extraordinary book details the personal journeys of extraordinary environmentalists and game changers.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/y0e9_koU.png" alt="Rod Taylor"></p>

<p>This episode is dedicated to the memory of Dr. Haydn Washington. Haydn was a prolific and passionate writer and speaker on sustainability, degrowth, the need for population stabilisation and denialism against both climate and population realities. He wrote or edited many books. He was active in CASSE and the Ecological Economics community.  The Australian Degrowth movement owes much to Haydn’s work.  A tribute to Haydn can be found on Rod’s ‘Fuzzy Logic’ science show <a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/e/states-of-denial/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.   The link includes an interview that Rod did with Haydn at the 2013 Fenner Conference, organised by <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/JJFQghJM.jpg" alt="Hadyn Washington"></p>

<p>You can find out more about &quot;10 Journeys on a Fragile Planet&quot; <a href="https://tenjourneys.blogspot.com/2020/04/ten-journeys-on-fragile-planetcoming.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/q5zxAqq8.png" alt="ten journeys cover"></p>

<p>Want to find out more about the Fuzzy Logic Science show?  You can listen via Canberra’s radio <a href="https://www.2xxfm.org.au/shows/fuzzy-logic/" rel="nofollow">2XX</a> or via the <a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic Podcast</a>.</p>

<p>As a prolific and energetic volunteer for Sustainable Population Australia,  Rod worked with PGAP co-host Michael Bayliss with many of SPA’s  video productions,  including:  “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F_9amXCLw&t=562s" rel="nofollow">Talking Heads: Choosing to have children...or not</a>”  and an interview with the Ambassador of Costa Rica,  “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhnN2KSa_Qo" rel="nofollow">Pura Vida Costa Rica with Ambassador Armando Vargas</a>”.  Michael owes much to Rod’s impeccable talent for camera angles and lighting.</p>

<p>Rod was also co-editor of &quot;<a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-78795-0" rel="nofollow">Sustainability and the New Economics</a>&quot; (Springer, 2022) with Steve Williams.  PGAP <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/stevewilliams" rel="nofollow">interviewed Steve</a> on a season 3 episode of PGAP.  This volume is an invaluable addition to the post-growth economic movement.</p>

<p>&quot;The path to sustainable  civilisation&quot;  co-written by Rod Taylor and Mark Disendorf is set to be published in mid 2023.  With the tag line - &#39;civilization&#39;s broken,  this is how we fix it&quot; - we can&#39;t wait for the launch!</p>

<p>Sustainable Population Australia has recently launched a new discussion paper, “<a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/how-many-australians-the-need-for-earth-centric-ethics/" rel="nofollow">How many Australians? The need for Earth-centric ethics</a>” authored by Patron Dr.  Paul Collins.  Paul was also interviewed for a season 3 edition of PGAP<a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/paulcollins" rel="nofollow"> here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/QsNvw2ZD.jpg" alt="discusspaper"></p>

<p>Find out more about co-host Mark Allen’s Holistic Activism movement <a href="https://holisticactivism.net/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>Support PGAP!  Share this episode and others with your friends,  family and networks.  Rate and review us on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.  Got any feedback or a suggestion for a future episode?  <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">Contact us here</a>.</p>

<p>It has been an epic 2022 for PGAP and the hosts.  Thank you for being with us through this journey and see you again in the new year.</p><p>Special Guest: Rod Taylor.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Rod Taylor is a multi-talented broadcaster, videographer based in Canberra.  In addition to hosting the &quot;<a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic Science show</a>&quot;, he is author of the 2020 book “<a href="https://tenjourneys.blogspot.com/2020/04/ten-journeys-on-fragile-planetcoming.html" rel="nofollow">10 Journeys on A Fragile Planet</a>”.  This extraordinary book details the personal journeys of extraordinary environmentalists and game changers.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/y0e9_koU.png" alt="Rod Taylor"></p>

<p>This episode is dedicated to the memory of Dr. Haydn Washington. Haydn was a prolific and passionate writer and speaker on sustainability, degrowth, the need for population stabilisation and denialism against both climate and population realities. He wrote or edited many books. He was active in CASSE and the Ecological Economics community.  The Australian Degrowth movement owes much to Haydn’s work.  A tribute to Haydn can be found on Rod’s ‘Fuzzy Logic’ science show <a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/e/states-of-denial/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.   The link includes an interview that Rod did with Haydn at the 2013 Fenner Conference, organised by <a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Sustainable Population Australia</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/JJFQghJM.jpg" alt="Hadyn Washington"></p>

<p>You can find out more about &quot;10 Journeys on a Fragile Planet&quot; <a href="https://tenjourneys.blogspot.com/2020/04/ten-journeys-on-fragile-planetcoming.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/q5zxAqq8.png" alt="ten journeys cover"></p>

<p>Want to find out more about the Fuzzy Logic Science show?  You can listen via Canberra’s radio <a href="https://www.2xxfm.org.au/shows/fuzzy-logic/" rel="nofollow">2XX</a> or via the <a href="https://fuzzylogicon2xx.podbean.com/" rel="nofollow">Fuzzy Logic Podcast</a>.</p>

<p>As a prolific and energetic volunteer for Sustainable Population Australia,  Rod worked with PGAP co-host Michael Bayliss with many of SPA’s  video productions,  including:  “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_F_9amXCLw&t=562s" rel="nofollow">Talking Heads: Choosing to have children...or not</a>”  and an interview with the Ambassador of Costa Rica,  “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhnN2KSa_Qo" rel="nofollow">Pura Vida Costa Rica with Ambassador Armando Vargas</a>”.  Michael owes much to Rod’s impeccable talent for camera angles and lighting.</p>

<p>Rod was also co-editor of &quot;<a href="https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-78795-0" rel="nofollow">Sustainability and the New Economics</a>&quot; (Springer, 2022) with Steve Williams.  PGAP <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/stevewilliams" rel="nofollow">interviewed Steve</a> on a season 3 episode of PGAP.  This volume is an invaluable addition to the post-growth economic movement.</p>

<p>&quot;The path to sustainable  civilisation&quot;  co-written by Rod Taylor and Mark Disendorf is set to be published in mid 2023.  With the tag line - &#39;civilization&#39;s broken,  this is how we fix it&quot; - we can&#39;t wait for the launch!</p>

<p>Sustainable Population Australia has recently launched a new discussion paper, “<a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/how-many-australians-the-need-for-earth-centric-ethics/" rel="nofollow">How many Australians? The need for Earth-centric ethics</a>” authored by Patron Dr.  Paul Collins.  Paul was also interviewed for a season 3 edition of PGAP<a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/paulcollins" rel="nofollow"> here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/QsNvw2ZD.jpg" alt="discusspaper"></p>

<p>Find out more about co-host Mark Allen’s Holistic Activism movement <a href="https://holisticactivism.net/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>

<p>Support PGAP!  Share this episode and others with your friends,  family and networks.  Rate and review us on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.  Got any feedback or a suggestion for a future episode?  <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">Contact us here</a>.</p>

<p>It has been an epic 2022 for PGAP and the hosts.  Thank you for being with us through this journey and see you again in the new year.</p><p>Special Guest: Rod Taylor.</p>]]>
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  <title>Charles Massy:  Making Agriculture Sustainable at the 2022 Fenner Conference</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>On March the 17th, a conference will be converging in Canberra called ‘Making Agriculture Sustainable’.  As we all know, Australian agriculture today is largely unsustainable. Soils are degrading and are in need of regeneration and broad acre farming is delivering food in quantity but not always in quality. So this conference will include an exceptional group of speakers to address the question: Can we feed ourselves and not destroy the Earth?

One of the keynote speakers, Charles Massy, has become a household name in regenerative farming.  He has a bestselling book ‘Call of the Reed Warbler: A New Agriculture’ and has been the subject of an Australian Story episode.   PGAP is delighted to have Charles join us to discuss regenerative agriculture in depth and tell us more about the upcoming Fenner conference.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>On March the 17th, a conference will be converging in Canberra called ‘Making Agriculture Sustainable (https://www.sustainableag.org.au/)’.  As we all know, Australian agriculture today is largely unsustainable. Soils are degrading and are in need of regeneration and broad acre farming is delivering food in quantity but not always in quality. So this conference will include an exceptional group of speakers to address the question: Can we feed ourselves and not destroy the Earth?
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/2LIcU5au.jpg" alt="charlesmassy"&gt;
One of the keynote speakers, Charles Massy (https://fennerschool.anu.edu.au/people/visiting/dr-charles-massy), has become a household name in regenerative farming.  He has a bestselling book ‘Call of the Reed Warbler: A New Agriculture’ (https://www.booktopia.com.au/call-of-the-reed-warbler-charles-massy/book/9780702263224.html?source=pla&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3K0TUblCtLdJctqBxgH7r_iQJASqkInyHssfnkQrXq-1w1aEl4BW4RoCC8AQAvD_BwE) and has been the subject of an Australian Story  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58G9htz0hTk)episode.   PGAP is delighted to have Charles join us to discuss regenerative agriculture in depth and tell us more about the upcoming Fenner conference.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/drt4w5b4.jpg" alt="fennerspeakers"&gt;
(a sample of the many speakers at the 2022 Feneer conference)
To find out more or to register for the 2022 Fenner conference ‘Making Agriculture Sustainable’ click here (https://www.sustainableag.org.au/index.php/register/).
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/8ILVZwkq.jpg" alt="Fenner logo"&gt;
The Australian Story episode of Charles Massy can be found here.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58G9htz0hTk) To find out more about his book ‘Call of the Reed Warbler,’ start here (https://www.booktopia.com.au/call-of-the-reed-warbler-charles-massy/book/9780702263224.html)
Rod Taylor, one of the Fenner organisers,  has also recently published a book ‘ Ten Journeys on A Fragile Planet.’  Agriculture and care for country are both reoccurring themes in this book.  You can find out more here (https://www.odysseybooks.com.au/titles/9781925652789/#:~:text=In%20Ten%20Journeys%20on%20a,This%20book%20tells%20their%20stories.).
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/alYoeod9.jpg" alt="spadiscuss"&gt;
This year’s Fenner conference is made possible by the generous support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA (https://population.org.au/)).  SPA are also the main supporters of PGAP.  You can read more on their recent discussion paper of ‘Population and Climate Change’ here (https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/climate/).  If population policy in Australia is a concern for you in the lead up to the election, SPA offers come handy hints on making a difference here (https://population.org.au/how-you-can-make-a-difference/).   SPA relies on grass roots donations, supporters and members to ensure that their important message has cut through in a generally unforgiving media environment.  To support SPA, find out more here (https://population.org.au/support/).
It has been 50 years since that wonderful but intimating book ‘Limits to Growth’ was published in 1972.  It is as relevant as ever (especially as the worst case projections in the book are all playing out on cue).  A great article was recently written on the anniversary which can be read here (https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-02-22/dennis-meadows-on-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-publication-of-the-limits-to-growth/?fbclid=IwAR09bIlOX7qJQU5k1o2nbwIYwIFIOi2Agfxf_suhYvQsco422udNtWnlNm8).
Got feedback?  Post-Growth ideas?  Or would you like to be a guest on PGAP or contribute your music?  Then please say hello on our contact page here. (https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact)  Rate and review PGAP on Apple Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099).  Share PGAP far and wide – with your kind support PGAP is becoming increasingly known and popular Thank you!
The music of choice for this episode is 'Blame It On The Sun'  by 'Counting Backwards'.  A link to their Bandcamp page can be found here (https://countingbackwards.bandcamp.com/).
Want to find out a little more about PGAP’s host?  Michael’s website can be visited here (https://michaelbayliss.org/).
 Special Guest: Charles Massy.
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    <![CDATA[<p>On March the 17th, a conference will be converging in Canberra called ‘<a href="https://www.sustainableag.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Making Agriculture Sustainable</a>’.  As we all know, Australian agriculture today is largely unsustainable. Soils are degrading and are in need of regeneration and broad acre farming is delivering food in quantity but not always in quality. So this conference will include an exceptional group of speakers to address the question: Can we feed ourselves and not destroy the Earth?</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/2LIcU5au.jpg" alt="charlesmassy"></p>

<p>One of the keynote speakers,<a href="https://fennerschool.anu.edu.au/people/visiting/dr-charles-massy" rel="nofollow"> Charles Massy</a>, has become a household name in regenerative farming.  He has a bestselling book <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/call-of-the-reed-warbler-charles-massy/book/9780702263224.html?source=pla&gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3K0TUblCtLdJctqBxgH7r_iQJASqkInyHssfnkQrXq-1w1aEl4BW4RoCC8AQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">‘Call of the Reed Warbler: A New Agriculture’</a> and has been the subject of an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58G9htz0hTk" rel="nofollow">Australian Story </a>episode.   PGAP is delighted to have Charles join us to discuss regenerative agriculture in depth and tell us more about the upcoming Fenner conference.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/drt4w5b4.jpg" alt="fennerspeakers"><br>
(a sample of the many speakers at the 2022 Feneer conference)</p>

<p>To find out more or to register for the 2022 Fenner conference ‘Making Agriculture Sustainable’ <a href="https://www.sustainableag.org.au/index.php/register/" rel="nofollow">click here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/8ILVZwkq.jpg" alt="Fenner logo"></p>

<p>The Australian Story episode of Charles Massy can be <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58G9htz0hTk" rel="nofollow">found here. </a> To find out more about his book ‘Call of the Reed Warbler,’ <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/call-of-the-reed-warbler-charles-massy/book/9780702263224.html" rel="nofollow">start here</a></p>

<p>Rod Taylor, one of the Fenner organisers,  has also recently published a book ‘ Ten Journeys on A Fragile Planet.’  Agriculture and care for country are both reoccurring themes in this book.  You can find out <a href="https://www.odysseybooks.com.au/titles/9781925652789/#:%7E:text=In%20Ten%20Journeys%20on%20a,This%20book%20tells%20their%20stories." rel="nofollow">more here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/alYoeod9.jpg" alt="spadiscuss"></p>

<p>This year’s Fenner conference is made possible by the generous support of Sustainable Population Australia (<a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">SPA</a>).  SPA are also the main supporters of PGAP.  You can read more on their recent discussion paper of ‘Population and Climate Change’ <a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/climate/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  If population policy in Australia is a concern for you in the lead up to the election, SPA offers come handy hints on making a difference <a href="https://population.org.au/how-you-can-make-a-difference/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.   SPA relies on grass roots donations, supporters and members to ensure that their important message has cut through in a generally unforgiving media environment.  To support SPA, find out more <a href="https://population.org.au/support/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>It has been 50 years since that wonderful but intimating book ‘Limits to Growth’ was published in 1972.  It is as relevant as ever (especially as the worst case projections in the book are all playing out on cue).  A great article was recently written on the anniversary which can be read <a href="https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-02-22/dennis-meadows-on-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-publication-of-the-limits-to-growth/?fbclid=IwAR09bIlOX7qJQU5k1o2nbwIYwIFIOi2Agfxf_suhYvQsco422udNtWnlNm8" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Got feedback?  Post-Growth ideas?  Or would you like to be a guest on PGAP or contribute your music?  Then please say hello on our contact page <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here.</a>  Rate and review PGAP on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.  Share PGAP far and wide – with your kind support PGAP is becoming increasingly known and popular Thank you!</p>

<p>The music of choice for this episode is &#39;Blame It On The Sun&#39;  by &#39;Counting Backwards&#39;.  A link to their Bandcamp page can be found <a href="https://countingbackwards.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Want to find out a little more about PGAP’s host?  Michael’s website can be visited <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Charles Massy.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>On March the 17th, a conference will be converging in Canberra called ‘<a href="https://www.sustainableag.org.au/" rel="nofollow">Making Agriculture Sustainable</a>’.  As we all know, Australian agriculture today is largely unsustainable. Soils are degrading and are in need of regeneration and broad acre farming is delivering food in quantity but not always in quality. So this conference will include an exceptional group of speakers to address the question: Can we feed ourselves and not destroy the Earth?</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/2LIcU5au.jpg" alt="charlesmassy"></p>

<p>One of the keynote speakers,<a href="https://fennerschool.anu.edu.au/people/visiting/dr-charles-massy" rel="nofollow"> Charles Massy</a>, has become a household name in regenerative farming.  He has a bestselling book <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/call-of-the-reed-warbler-charles-massy/book/9780702263224.html?source=pla&gclid=CjwKCAiAgvKQBhBbEiwAaPQw3K0TUblCtLdJctqBxgH7r_iQJASqkInyHssfnkQrXq-1w1aEl4BW4RoCC8AQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">‘Call of the Reed Warbler: A New Agriculture’</a> and has been the subject of an <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58G9htz0hTk" rel="nofollow">Australian Story </a>episode.   PGAP is delighted to have Charles join us to discuss regenerative agriculture in depth and tell us more about the upcoming Fenner conference.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/drt4w5b4.jpg" alt="fennerspeakers"><br>
(a sample of the many speakers at the 2022 Feneer conference)</p>

<p>To find out more or to register for the 2022 Fenner conference ‘Making Agriculture Sustainable’ <a href="https://www.sustainableag.org.au/index.php/register/" rel="nofollow">click here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/8ILVZwkq.jpg" alt="Fenner logo"></p>

<p>The Australian Story episode of Charles Massy can be <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58G9htz0hTk" rel="nofollow">found here. </a> To find out more about his book ‘Call of the Reed Warbler,’ <a href="https://www.booktopia.com.au/call-of-the-reed-warbler-charles-massy/book/9780702263224.html" rel="nofollow">start here</a></p>

<p>Rod Taylor, one of the Fenner organisers,  has also recently published a book ‘ Ten Journeys on A Fragile Planet.’  Agriculture and care for country are both reoccurring themes in this book.  You can find out <a href="https://www.odysseybooks.com.au/titles/9781925652789/#:%7E:text=In%20Ten%20Journeys%20on%20a,This%20book%20tells%20their%20stories." rel="nofollow">more here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/alYoeod9.jpg" alt="spadiscuss"></p>

<p>This year’s Fenner conference is made possible by the generous support of Sustainable Population Australia (<a href="https://population.org.au/" rel="nofollow">SPA</a>).  SPA are also the main supporters of PGAP.  You can read more on their recent discussion paper of ‘Population and Climate Change’ <a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/climate/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  If population policy in Australia is a concern for you in the lead up to the election, SPA offers come handy hints on making a difference <a href="https://population.org.au/how-you-can-make-a-difference/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.   SPA relies on grass roots donations, supporters and members to ensure that their important message has cut through in a generally unforgiving media environment.  To support SPA, find out more <a href="https://population.org.au/support/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>It has been 50 years since that wonderful but intimating book ‘Limits to Growth’ was published in 1972.  It is as relevant as ever (especially as the worst case projections in the book are all playing out on cue).  A great article was recently written on the anniversary which can be read <a href="https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-02-22/dennis-meadows-on-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-publication-of-the-limits-to-growth/?fbclid=IwAR09bIlOX7qJQU5k1o2nbwIYwIFIOi2Agfxf_suhYvQsco422udNtWnlNm8" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Got feedback?  Post-Growth ideas?  Or would you like to be a guest on PGAP or contribute your music?  Then please say hello on our contact page <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here.</a>  Rate and review PGAP on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcast</a>.  Share PGAP far and wide – with your kind support PGAP is becoming increasingly known and popular Thank you!</p>

<p>The music of choice for this episode is &#39;Blame It On The Sun&#39;  by &#39;Counting Backwards&#39;.  A link to their Bandcamp page can be found <a href="https://countingbackwards.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Want to find out a little more about PGAP’s host?  Michael’s website can be visited <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>Special Guest: Charles Massy.</p>]]>
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