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    <title>Post-Growth Australia Podcast - Episodes Tagged with “Ian Lowe”</title>
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    <description>The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.
Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.
In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.
Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.
PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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    <itunes:summary>The podcast where better is definitely better than bigger.
Do you think growing infinitely on a finite planet is an oxymoron? If the answer is yes, then this podcast is for you.
In each episode of the Post-Growth Australia Podcast (PGAP), host Michael Bayliss talks to experts to unpack the notion of post-growth societies and what this means for us, for future generations and for the planet.
Each episode will also play an environmental themed song from local artists.
PGAP is made possible by the support of Sustainable Population Australia (SPA).
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  <title>Population and Climate Change with Ian Lowe and Jane O'Sullivan</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Did you know that climate mitigation models show that the only scenarios that avoid dangerous climate change are those which assume global population peaks in the next decade and then declines? Why is no-one talking about this?  Luckily for us and the future of the planet,  PGAP’s two guests for this episode, Professor Ian Lowe and Doctor Jane O’Sullivan,  have written a new discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change.’  Co-written with Doctor Peter Cook and commissioned by Sustainable Population Australia, this new report uses clear concise language with thorough scientific research to make a very strong case for the role that population plays in this warming world.  PGAP speaks with Jane and Ian to unwrap the key points behind the discussion paper and to find out more about the stories behind these two inspiring people.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Did you know that climate mitigation models show that the only scenarios that avoid dangerous climate change are those which assume global population peaks in the next decade and then declines? Why is no-one talking about this?  Luckily for us and the future of the planet,  PGAP’s two guests for this episode, Professor Ian Lowe and Doctor Jane O’Sullivan,  have written a new discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change.’  Co-written with Doctor Peter Cook and commissioned by Sustainable Population Australia, this new report uses clear concise language with thorough scientific research to make a very strong case for the role that population plays in this warming world.  PGAP speaks with Jane and Ian to unwrap the key points behind the discussion paper and to find out more about the stories behind these two inspiring people.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/alYoeod9.jpg" alt="spadiscuss"&gt;
The discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change’ can be downloaded from the Sustainable Population Australia website here (https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/climate/).  You can find out more about SPA and their recent campaigns here (https://population.org.au/lets-rethink-big-australia/) and here (https://population.org.au/how-you-can-make-a-difference/).
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/QJHNai1j.jpg" alt="Ian Lowe"&gt;
Ian was recently interviewed on ABC’s Radio National Science Show on the ‘Population and Climate Change’ discussion paper here (https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/human-population-the-driver-of-greenhouse-emissions-and-all-env/13771554).  As a patron for Sustainable Population Australia,  Ian was also interviewed for SPA’s ‘Meet the Patrons’  series of short videos here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JW6-7O5EU&amp;amp;list=PLqZhQi8eQurRR5xL6xP9qGgyStq4xkVNt&amp;amp;index=4).
Ian’s interview can be heard between 00:07:10  and 00:29:52
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/B0zZVfiW.jpg" alt="Jane Osullivan"&gt;
Jane has just had a very topical article published in The Overpopulation Project:  “Ukraine war: temporary glitch or tipping point?” (https://overpopulation-project.com/ukraine-war-temporary-glitch-or-tipping-point/)  Last year, she was guest on the award winning US based podcast “This Sustainable Life” (https://podcasts.apple.com/br/podcast/483-jane-osullivan-debunking-the-aging-problem-scam/id1320141457?i=1000527935727&amp;amp;l=en) to discuss SPA’s previous commissioned report “Silver Tsunami Or Silver Lining (https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/ageing/): Why We Should Not Fear an Ageing Population” - which Jane authored.
Jane’s interview can be heard between 00:33:08 and 01: 01: 50
I note that the New Economy Network Australia (NENA) were very kind in sharing the ‘Population and Climate Change’ discussion paper.   Their director, Dr. Michelle Maloney was one of the first guests on PGAP and both Jane and I have presented at NENA run conferences.   NENA is collaborating with Griffith University's Yunus Centre to deliver a short course: " Building the Wellbeing Economy: Foundations for Learning and Practice." The course brings together 21 thought-leaders over 8 weeks to discuss how we might reshape the economy in which both people and the planet thrive.  This is critical for any Post-Growth person to consider.  To register go here (https://www.neweconomy.org.au/courses/building-a-wellbeing-economy-2022/), or follow the poster below!
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/Ix4zxPOJ.jpg" alt="NENA course"&gt;
Loved the episode?  Hated it?  Love the episode but hate PGAP?  Firecely undecided?  We’d love to hear your (constructive) thoughts and feedback by contacting us here (https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact).  Word of mouth is our main tool to crack the mainstream, so please consider sharing this episode,  subscribe to PGAP (https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe) or rate and reviewing this episode on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099).
Want to find out more about the host?  Check out my website here (https://michaelbayliss.org/). Special Guests: Dr.  Jane O'Sullivcan and Prof. Ian Lowe.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Did you know that climate mitigation models show that the only scenarios that avoid dangerous climate change are those which assume global population peaks in the next decade and then declines? Why is no-one talking about this?  Luckily for us and the future of the planet,  PGAP’s two guests for this episode, Professor Ian Lowe and Doctor Jane O’Sullivan,  have written a new discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change.’  Co-written with Doctor Peter Cook and commissioned by Sustainable Population Australia, this new report uses clear concise language with thorough scientific research to make a very strong case for the role that population plays in this warming world.  PGAP speaks with Jane and Ian to unwrap the key points behind the discussion paper and to find out more about the stories behind these two inspiring people.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/alYoeod9.jpg" alt="spadiscuss"></p>

<p>The discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change’ can be downloaded from the Sustainable Population Australia website <a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/climate/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  You can find out more about SPA and their recent campaigns <a href="https://population.org.au/lets-rethink-big-australia/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="https://population.org.au/how-you-can-make-a-difference/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/QJHNai1j.jpg" alt="Ian Lowe"></p>

<p>Ian was recently interviewed on ABC’s Radio National Science Show on the ‘Population and Climate Change’ discussion paper <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/human-population-the-driver-of-greenhouse-emissions-and-all-env/13771554" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  As a patron for Sustainable Population Australia,  Ian was also interviewed for SPA’s ‘Meet the Patrons’  series of short videos <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JW6-7O5EU&list=PLqZhQi8eQurRR5xL6xP9qGgyStq4xkVNt&index=4" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br>
Ian’s interview can be heard between 00:07:10  and 00:29:52</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/B0zZVfiW.jpg" alt="Jane Osullivan"></p>

<p>Jane has just had a very topical article published in The Overpopulation Project:  <a href="https://overpopulation-project.com/ukraine-war-temporary-glitch-or-tipping-point/" rel="nofollow">“Ukraine war: temporary glitch or tipping point?”</a>  Last year, she was guest on the award winning US based podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/br/podcast/483-jane-osullivan-debunking-the-aging-problem-scam/id1320141457?i=1000527935727&l=en" rel="nofollow">“This Sustainable Life”</a> to discuss SPA’s previous commissioned report “<a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/ageing/" rel="nofollow">Silver Tsunami Or Silver Lining</a>: Why We Should Not Fear an Ageing Population” - which Jane authored.<br>
Jane’s interview can be heard between 00:33:08 and 01: 01: 50</p>

<p>I note that the New Economy Network Australia (NENA) were very kind in sharing the ‘Population and Climate Change’ discussion paper.   Their director, Dr. Michelle Maloney was one of the first guests on PGAP and both Jane and I have presented at NENA run conferences.   NENA is collaborating with Griffith University&#39;s Yunus Centre to deliver a short course: &quot; Building the Wellbeing Economy: Foundations for Learning and Practice.&quot; The course brings together 21 thought-leaders over 8 weeks to discuss how we might reshape the economy in which both people and the planet thrive.  This is critical for any Post-Growth person to consider.  To register go <a href="https://www.neweconomy.org.au/courses/building-a-wellbeing-economy-2022/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, or follow the poster below!</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/Ix4zxPOJ.jpg" alt="NENA course"></p>

<p>Loved the episode?  Hated it?  Love the episode but hate PGAP?  Firecely undecided?  We’d love to hear your (constructive) thoughts and feedback by contacting us <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Word of mouth is our main tool to crack the mainstream, so please consider sharing this episode,  subscribe to <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe" rel="nofollow">PGAP</a> or rate and reviewing this episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>.</p>

<p>Want to find out more about the host?  Check out my website <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>Special Guests: Dr.  Jane O&#39;Sullivcan and Prof. Ian Lowe.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Did you know that climate mitigation models show that the only scenarios that avoid dangerous climate change are those which assume global population peaks in the next decade and then declines? Why is no-one talking about this?  Luckily for us and the future of the planet,  PGAP’s two guests for this episode, Professor Ian Lowe and Doctor Jane O’Sullivan,  have written a new discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change.’  Co-written with Doctor Peter Cook and commissioned by Sustainable Population Australia, this new report uses clear concise language with thorough scientific research to make a very strong case for the role that population plays in this warming world.  PGAP speaks with Jane and Ian to unwrap the key points behind the discussion paper and to find out more about the stories behind these two inspiring people.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/alYoeod9.jpg" alt="spadiscuss"></p>

<p>The discussion paper ‘Population and Climate Change’ can be downloaded from the Sustainable Population Australia website <a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/climate/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  You can find out more about SPA and their recent campaigns <a href="https://population.org.au/lets-rethink-big-australia/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="https://population.org.au/how-you-can-make-a-difference/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/QJHNai1j.jpg" alt="Ian Lowe"></p>

<p>Ian was recently interviewed on ABC’s Radio National Science Show on the ‘Population and Climate Change’ discussion paper <a href="https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/human-population-the-driver-of-greenhouse-emissions-and-all-env/13771554" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  As a patron for Sustainable Population Australia,  Ian was also interviewed for SPA’s ‘Meet the Patrons’  series of short videos <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JW6-7O5EU&list=PLqZhQi8eQurRR5xL6xP9qGgyStq4xkVNt&index=4" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br>
Ian’s interview can be heard between 00:07:10  and 00:29:52</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/B0zZVfiW.jpg" alt="Jane Osullivan"></p>

<p>Jane has just had a very topical article published in The Overpopulation Project:  <a href="https://overpopulation-project.com/ukraine-war-temporary-glitch-or-tipping-point/" rel="nofollow">“Ukraine war: temporary glitch or tipping point?”</a>  Last year, she was guest on the award winning US based podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/br/podcast/483-jane-osullivan-debunking-the-aging-problem-scam/id1320141457?i=1000527935727&l=en" rel="nofollow">“This Sustainable Life”</a> to discuss SPA’s previous commissioned report “<a href="https://population.org.au/discussion-papers/ageing/" rel="nofollow">Silver Tsunami Or Silver Lining</a>: Why We Should Not Fear an Ageing Population” - which Jane authored.<br>
Jane’s interview can be heard between 00:33:08 and 01: 01: 50</p>

<p>I note that the New Economy Network Australia (NENA) were very kind in sharing the ‘Population and Climate Change’ discussion paper.   Their director, Dr. Michelle Maloney was one of the first guests on PGAP and both Jane and I have presented at NENA run conferences.   NENA is collaborating with Griffith University&#39;s Yunus Centre to deliver a short course: &quot; Building the Wellbeing Economy: Foundations for Learning and Practice.&quot; The course brings together 21 thought-leaders over 8 weeks to discuss how we might reshape the economy in which both people and the planet thrive.  This is critical for any Post-Growth person to consider.  To register go <a href="https://www.neweconomy.org.au/courses/building-a-wellbeing-economy-2022/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, or follow the poster below!</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/Ix4zxPOJ.jpg" alt="NENA course"></p>

<p>Loved the episode?  Hated it?  Love the episode but hate PGAP?  Firecely undecided?  We’d love to hear your (constructive) thoughts and feedback by contacting us <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/contact" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Word of mouth is our main tool to crack the mainstream, so please consider sharing this episode,  subscribe to <a href="https://pgap.fireside.fm/subscribe" rel="nofollow">PGAP</a> or rate and reviewing this episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/post-growth-australia-podcast/id1522194099" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>.</p>

<p>Want to find out more about the host?  Check out my website <a href="https://michaelbayliss.org/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p><p>Special Guests: Dr.  Jane O&#39;Sullivcan and Prof. Ian Lowe.</p>]]>
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  <title>Tassie Perspectives 2:  Damning the Matrix with Mike Stasse</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2021 15:00:00 +1000</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Bayliss</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>"Degrowth is happening whether we like it or not"  - Michel Stasse

In the 'Tasmanian Perspectives’ series,  PGAP host Michael Bayliss travels around the Apple Isle to interview Post-Growth mainlanders who have resettled in Tasmania and to discuss their reasons why.
In this episode,  I travel to the Huon Valley to meet with Michel Stasse,  long-time Degrowth advocate,  founder of the 'Damn The Matrix'  blog and DIO superhero who self-built an impressive self-sufficient, off-grid eco home in the Huon Valley.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>"Degrowth is happening whether we like it or not"  - Michel Stasse
In the 'Tasmanian Perspectives’ series,  PGAP host Michael Bayliss travels around the Apple Isle to interview Post-Growth mainlanders who have resettled in Tasmania and to discuss their reasons why.
In this episode,  I travel to the Huon Valley to meet with Michel Stasse,  long-time Degrowth advocate,  founder of the 'Damn The Matrix'  blog and DIO superhero who self-built an impressive self-sufficient, off-grid eco home in the Huon Valley.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/EwxMiLdO.jpg" alt="tashouse"&gt;
Mike kindly took some time aside for giving me a tour of his home where the on-site interview took place and discussed with me his reasons for moving from Queensland to Tasmania.  We then discuss his life journey towards understanding limits to growth, standing for politics in Queensland, to his current advocacy for Degrowth and his reasons why electric cars and the green new deal won’t save us.
I interviewed Mike in February on a hot day for Tasmania - mid 30s - and the day in which Australia endured the Facebook kerfuffle, including the removal of content from Australian activist groups and organisations.  As such, there was a whiff of apocalypse already in the air, and during the interview Mike certainly doesn't mince words as he takes us somewhere down the deep end.  So a 'health warning’ for anyone expecting a utopian outlook for this episode.
&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/R2fzk06e.png" alt="damnmatrix"&gt;
Also a slight 'sound warning’ - the episode was recording on site in a dynamic living environment so there is the occasional background sound during the interview.  The intro and outro are recorded in my current house-sit in Adelaide, which is right near a main road and right near an operational quarry.  So there is the occasional background traffic rumble.  Some may call it unfortunate recording conditions - I prefer to call it 'character.'  Anyone listening who would prefer pristine recording conditions is always more than welcome to buy me a house somewhere nice ANYTIME.
Did this episode scratch the surface leaving you wanting more?  Want to find out more about Mike Stasse or Professor Ian Lowe,  who is mentioned in my discussions with Mike and who I include an interview excerpt at the start of the episode?  Well I'm glad you asked!
The blog 'Damn The Matrix’ can be found here (https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/)
Michel discusses peak oil (and other fun things!) on YouTube here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&amp;amp;v=KuetSASTxXU)
I interviewed Professor Ian Lowe as part of Sustainable Population Australia's 'meet our patrons'  video series that can be found on the YouTube channel here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JW6-7O5EU&amp;amp;list=PLqZhQi8eQurRR5xL6xP9qGgyStq4xkVNt&amp;amp;index=4).  Excerpts from that interview were played at the start of this episode.  More information on Ian Lowe can be found on the SPA website here (https://population.org.au/about/people/prof-ian-lowe/).
Also....if you liked the music track of choice Epi-Primate,  I am relived that the band Heytesburg still have a presence on BandCamp here (https://heytesburg.bandcamp.com/),  even though they are on indefinite hiatus.  I can't believe this track is almost a decade old now.
 Special Guest: Michael Stasse.
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>&quot;Degrowth is happening whether we like it or not&quot;  - Michel Stasse</strong></p>

<p>In the &#39;Tasmanian Perspectives’ series,  PGAP host Michael Bayliss travels around the Apple Isle to interview Post-Growth mainlanders who have resettled in Tasmania and to discuss their reasons why.<br>
In this episode,  I travel to the Huon Valley to meet with Michel Stasse,  long-time Degrowth advocate,  founder of the &#39;Damn The Matrix&#39;  blog and DIO superhero who self-built an impressive self-sufficient, off-grid eco home in the Huon Valley.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/EwxMiLdO.jpg" alt="tashouse"></p>

<p>Mike kindly took some time aside for giving me a tour of his home where the on-site interview took place and discussed with me his reasons for moving from Queensland to Tasmania.  We then discuss his life journey towards understanding limits to growth, standing for politics in Queensland, to his current advocacy for Degrowth and his reasons why electric cars and the green new deal won’t save us.</p>

<p>I interviewed Mike in February on a hot day for Tasmania - mid 30s - and the day in which Australia endured the Facebook kerfuffle, including the removal of content from Australian activist groups and organisations.  As such, there was a whiff of apocalypse already in the air, and during the interview Mike certainly doesn&#39;t mince words as he takes us somewhere down the deep end.  So a &#39;health warning’ for anyone expecting a utopian outlook for this episode.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/R2fzk06e.png" alt="damnmatrix"></p>

<p>Also a slight &#39;sound warning’ - the episode was recording on site in a dynamic living environment so there is the occasional background sound during the interview.  The intro and outro are recorded in my current house-sit in Adelaide, which is right near a main road and right near an operational quarry.  So there is the occasional background traffic rumble.  Some may call it unfortunate recording conditions - I prefer to call it &#39;character.&#39;  Anyone listening who would prefer pristine recording conditions is always more than welcome to buy me a house somewhere nice ANYTIME.</p>

<p>Did this episode scratch the surface leaving you wanting more?  Want to find out more about Mike Stasse or Professor Ian Lowe,  who is mentioned in my discussions with Mike and who I include an interview excerpt at the start of the episode?  Well I&#39;m glad you asked!</p>

<p>The blog &#39;Damn The Matrix’ can be found <a href="https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>

<p>Michel discusses peak oil (and other fun things!) on YouTube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KuetSASTxXU" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>

<p>I interviewed Professor Ian Lowe as part of Sustainable Population Australia&#39;s &#39;meet our patrons&#39;  video series that can be found on the YouTube channel <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JW6-7O5EU&list=PLqZhQi8eQurRR5xL6xP9qGgyStq4xkVNt&index=4" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Excerpts from that interview were played at the start of this episode.  More information on Ian Lowe can be found on the SPA website <a href="https://population.org.au/about/people/prof-ian-lowe/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Also....if you liked the music track of choice Epi-Primate,  I am relived that the band Heytesburg still have a presence on BandCamp<a href="https://heytesburg.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow"> here</a>,  even though they are on indefinite hiatus.  I can&#39;t believe this track is almost a decade old now.</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Stasse.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>&quot;Degrowth is happening whether we like it or not&quot;  - Michel Stasse</strong></p>

<p>In the &#39;Tasmanian Perspectives’ series,  PGAP host Michael Bayliss travels around the Apple Isle to interview Post-Growth mainlanders who have resettled in Tasmania and to discuss their reasons why.<br>
In this episode,  I travel to the Huon Valley to meet with Michel Stasse,  long-time Degrowth advocate,  founder of the &#39;Damn The Matrix&#39;  blog and DIO superhero who self-built an impressive self-sufficient, off-grid eco home in the Huon Valley.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/EwxMiLdO.jpg" alt="tashouse"></p>

<p>Mike kindly took some time aside for giving me a tour of his home where the on-site interview took place and discussed with me his reasons for moving from Queensland to Tasmania.  We then discuss his life journey towards understanding limits to growth, standing for politics in Queensland, to his current advocacy for Degrowth and his reasons why electric cars and the green new deal won’t save us.</p>

<p>I interviewed Mike in February on a hot day for Tasmania - mid 30s - and the day in which Australia endured the Facebook kerfuffle, including the removal of content from Australian activist groups and organisations.  As such, there was a whiff of apocalypse already in the air, and during the interview Mike certainly doesn&#39;t mince words as he takes us somewhere down the deep end.  So a &#39;health warning’ for anyone expecting a utopian outlook for this episode.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/1/17723385-3cd9-4642-b57d-6de8191b8794/R2fzk06e.png" alt="damnmatrix"></p>

<p>Also a slight &#39;sound warning’ - the episode was recording on site in a dynamic living environment so there is the occasional background sound during the interview.  The intro and outro are recorded in my current house-sit in Adelaide, which is right near a main road and right near an operational quarry.  So there is the occasional background traffic rumble.  Some may call it unfortunate recording conditions - I prefer to call it &#39;character.&#39;  Anyone listening who would prefer pristine recording conditions is always more than welcome to buy me a house somewhere nice ANYTIME.</p>

<p>Did this episode scratch the surface leaving you wanting more?  Want to find out more about Mike Stasse or Professor Ian Lowe,  who is mentioned in my discussions with Mike and who I include an interview excerpt at the start of the episode?  Well I&#39;m glad you asked!</p>

<p>The blog &#39;Damn The Matrix’ can be found <a href="https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>

<p>Michel discusses peak oil (and other fun things!) on YouTube <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KuetSASTxXU" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>

<p>I interviewed Professor Ian Lowe as part of Sustainable Population Australia&#39;s &#39;meet our patrons&#39;  video series that can be found on the YouTube channel <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JW6-7O5EU&list=PLqZhQi8eQurRR5xL6xP9qGgyStq4xkVNt&index=4" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  Excerpts from that interview were played at the start of this episode.  More information on Ian Lowe can be found on the SPA website <a href="https://population.org.au/about/people/prof-ian-lowe/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Also....if you liked the music track of choice Epi-Primate,  I am relived that the band Heytesburg still have a presence on BandCamp<a href="https://heytesburg.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow"> here</a>,  even though they are on indefinite hiatus.  I can&#39;t believe this track is almost a decade old now.</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Stasse.</p>]]>
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  <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:00:00 +1000</pubDate>
  <author>Michael Bayliss</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>For world population day 2020,  PGAP interviews game changers from across the globe who advocate for population sustainability and for women's choice and empowerment.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>*Think we can go post-growth without a slow-down in population?  *
Regardless of what our personal views are in regards to population, hopefully most of us can agree that empowerment of women, choice and agency in regards to family size and worldwide access to affordable family planning and contraception services is a moral imperative.  These are essential human rights no matter where we happen to live on the planet.  Once these are in place, it so happens that people tend to have smaller family sizes, which is a better outcome for families, for communities and for the planet.
World Population Day is "celebrated" on 11 July, and this year’s goal is to raise awareness of women’s and girls’ sexual and reproductive health needs and of their vulnerabilities during the pandemic.
In the first episode of our 2 part world population special, PGAP interviews -
• Terry Spahr, director of 8 Billion Angels (https://8billionangels.org/) – a feature length documentary that explores the environmental consequences of collective human impact in the USA and India – and why family planning is one essential solution to the many problems that we face on a global scale.  Terry is also director of Earth Overshoot (https://www.earthovershoot.org/).
• Robin Witt and Georgia Burford from CHASE Africa (https://www.chaseafrica.org.uk/).  CHASE works on the grass-roots level in Kenya by partnering with local community to provide quality family planning and health education.  
At PGAP we are in awe of the tireless dedication, passion and love of the environment that is so evident in all three of our incredible guests – for a cause that is so often contentious and misunderstood by the broader community.  It is time we work together to unpack these misconceptions!
In the episode we also play the audio excerpt from our new video (https://youtu.be/eUq-Ek24ulY) ‘Meet The Patrons of Sustainable Population Australia.’  This is a talking head compilation of the video interviews of SPA’s patrons.  Included in the excerpt is National President Sandra Kanck who is joined by Dr Katharine Betts, Dr Paul Collins, Professor Ian Lowe and Professor Bob Carr.
We also play the track ‘Blind Freddy’ from South Australian band ‘RockPool’.   RockPool are band of dedicated environmentalists and ‘Blind Freddy’ explores the issues of the endless growth of human impact and human population.  The perfect theme the podcast series and this episode!
Stick around for World Population Day (part b)  when we interview Dave Gardner from World Population Balance and Joao Abegao,  academic based in Portugal.
 Special Guests: Georgia Burford, Robin Witt, and Terry Spahr.
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    <![CDATA[<p>*<em>Think we can go post-growth without a slow-down in population?  *</em></p>

<p>Regardless of what our personal views are in regards to population, hopefully most of us can agree that empowerment of women, choice and agency in regards to family size and worldwide access to affordable family planning and contraception services is a moral imperative.  These are essential human rights no matter where we happen to live on the planet.  Once these are in place, it so happens that people tend to have smaller family sizes, which is a better outcome for families, for communities and for the planet.</p>

<p>World Population Day is &quot;celebrated&quot; on 11 July, and this year’s goal is to raise awareness of women’s and girls’ sexual and reproductive health needs and of their vulnerabilities during the pandemic.</p>

<p>In the first episode of our 2 part world population special, PGAP interviews -</p>

<p>• <strong>Terry Spahr, director of <a href="https://8billionangels.org/" rel="nofollow">8 Billion Angels</a></strong> – a feature length documentary that explores the environmental consequences of collective human impact in the USA and India – and why family planning is one essential solution to the many problems that we face on a global scale.  Terry is also director of <a href="https://www.earthovershoot.org/" rel="nofollow">Earth Overshoot</a>.</p>

<p>• <strong>Robin Witt and Georgia Burford from <a href="https://www.chaseafrica.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">CHASE Africa</a></strong>.  CHASE works on the grass-roots level in Kenya by partnering with local community to provide quality family planning and health education.  </p>

<p>At PGAP we are in awe of the tireless dedication, passion and love of the environment that is so evident in all three of our incredible guests – for a cause that is so often contentious and misunderstood by the broader community.  It is time we work together to unpack these misconceptions!</p>

<p>In the episode we also play the audio excerpt from our <a href="https://youtu.be/eUq-Ek24ulY" rel="nofollow">new video</a> ‘Meet The Patrons of Sustainable Population Australia.’  This is a talking head compilation of the video interviews of SPA’s patrons.  Included in the excerpt is National President Sandra Kanck who is joined by Dr Katharine Betts, Dr Paul Collins, Professor Ian Lowe and Professor Bob Carr.</p>

<p>We also play the track ‘Blind Freddy’ from South Australian band ‘RockPool’.   RockPool are band of dedicated environmentalists and ‘Blind Freddy’ explores the issues of the endless growth of human impact and human population.  The perfect theme the podcast series and this episode!</p>

<p>Stick around for World Population Day (part b)  when we interview Dave Gardner from World Population Balance and Joao Abegao,  academic based in Portugal.</p><p>Special Guests: Georgia Burford, Robin Witt, and Terry Spahr.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>*<em>Think we can go post-growth without a slow-down in population?  *</em></p>

<p>Regardless of what our personal views are in regards to population, hopefully most of us can agree that empowerment of women, choice and agency in regards to family size and worldwide access to affordable family planning and contraception services is a moral imperative.  These are essential human rights no matter where we happen to live on the planet.  Once these are in place, it so happens that people tend to have smaller family sizes, which is a better outcome for families, for communities and for the planet.</p>

<p>World Population Day is &quot;celebrated&quot; on 11 July, and this year’s goal is to raise awareness of women’s and girls’ sexual and reproductive health needs and of their vulnerabilities during the pandemic.</p>

<p>In the first episode of our 2 part world population special, PGAP interviews -</p>

<p>• <strong>Terry Spahr, director of <a href="https://8billionangels.org/" rel="nofollow">8 Billion Angels</a></strong> – a feature length documentary that explores the environmental consequences of collective human impact in the USA and India – and why family planning is one essential solution to the many problems that we face on a global scale.  Terry is also director of <a href="https://www.earthovershoot.org/" rel="nofollow">Earth Overshoot</a>.</p>

<p>• <strong>Robin Witt and Georgia Burford from <a href="https://www.chaseafrica.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">CHASE Africa</a></strong>.  CHASE works on the grass-roots level in Kenya by partnering with local community to provide quality family planning and health education.  </p>

<p>At PGAP we are in awe of the tireless dedication, passion and love of the environment that is so evident in all three of our incredible guests – for a cause that is so often contentious and misunderstood by the broader community.  It is time we work together to unpack these misconceptions!</p>

<p>In the episode we also play the audio excerpt from our <a href="https://youtu.be/eUq-Ek24ulY" rel="nofollow">new video</a> ‘Meet The Patrons of Sustainable Population Australia.’  This is a talking head compilation of the video interviews of SPA’s patrons.  Included in the excerpt is National President Sandra Kanck who is joined by Dr Katharine Betts, Dr Paul Collins, Professor Ian Lowe and Professor Bob Carr.</p>

<p>We also play the track ‘Blind Freddy’ from South Australian band ‘RockPool’.   RockPool are band of dedicated environmentalists and ‘Blind Freddy’ explores the issues of the endless growth of human impact and human population.  The perfect theme the podcast series and this episode!</p>

<p>Stick around for World Population Day (part b)  when we interview Dave Gardner from World Population Balance and Joao Abegao,  academic based in Portugal.</p><p>Special Guests: Georgia Burford, Robin Witt, and Terry Spahr.</p>]]>
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